Comments for "Market Cliff Diving and More"
rickrolled says:
first?
rickrolled Mon Mar 30 15:05:14 2009 CDT #
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CRbot Mon Mar 30 15:05:41 2009 CDT #
Dead_Monkey_Bounce says:
Petition the tax appraisal.
Dead_Monkey_Bounce Mon Mar 30 15:06:01 2009 CDT #
Mannwich says:
Try again. Uno?
Mannwich Mon Mar 30 15:06:14 2009 CDT #
ShortCourage says:
Winners today:
AMZN up about 1.3%
IBM up about 0.5%
Can somebody lend me $1M so I can buy more puts on AMZN?
ShortCourage Mon Mar 30 15:09:07 2009 CDT #
Jas says:
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I bought some Jan'11 15 puts at $0.90. Only 20 went rhu at that price. More orders to buy this and Jan'10 25 puts.
Jas
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Jas Mon Mar 30 15:39:42 2009 CDT #
Jamie says:
AMZN is investment grade now.....don't but puts on them ;)
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Jamie Mon Mar 30 15:40:21 2009 CDT #
FFDIC says:
"This is the spread between high and low quality 30 day nonfinancial commercial paper."
Is that nonfinancial or nonfictional paper CR? :-$
FFDIC Mon Mar 30 15:09:19 2009 CDT #
Br\'er Dawg says:
Volatility is to be expected. I don't understand why anyone is surprised. The only indicators with low volatility are those subject to short term manipulation. Everything is going shorter. This is very, very bad.
Admiral Josh Painter: This business will get out of control. It will get out of control and we'll be lucky to live through it.
Br\'er Dawg Mon Mar 30 15:09:21 2009 CDT #
Comrade Elmer Fudd says:
was timmay to blame for this cliff diving? why aren't all our problems solved yet (stamps foot)?
Comrade Elmer Fudd Mon Mar 30 15:10:24 2009 CDT #
Anonymous says:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sI1TPJ4xURI
Shutting Detroit Down.
Waiting for our eras Will Rogers.
Anonymous Mon Mar 30 15:13:03 2009 CDT #
Br\'er Dawg says:
was timmay to blame for this cliff diving? why aren't all our problems solved yet (stamps foot)?
When the time comes Timmay will be blamed for everything thus giving the boss one last chance to make things right. Sadly, given a chance to make things right it is no stretch to assume he will use the opportunity to make things left.
Br\'er Dawg Mon Mar 30 15:13:13 2009 CDT #
briwerk says:
"Can somebody lend me $1M so I can buy more puts on AMZN?"
I agree about Amazon. What could possibly justify a P/E of 47 in this environment?
briwerk Mon Mar 30 15:13:21 2009 CDT #
nades says:
da kindle! (/end snark)
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nades Mon Mar 30 15:28:30 2009 CDT #
RockyR says:
"I agree about Amazon. What could possibly justify a P/E of 47 in this environment?"
It's the next bubble... "the cloud"... :)
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RockyR Mon Mar 30 17:10:00 2009 CDT #
Br\'er Dawg says:
The danger of Amazon is that it deals almost exclusively in discretionary items.
Br\'er Dawg Mon Mar 30 15:14:54 2009 CDT #
Jerry says:
CR, what ever happened to your friends that were trying to get financing. If I remember correctly they found, then lost, funding. But that was the last I can recall of it.
Jerry Mon Mar 30 15:14:58 2009 CDT #
Gareth G says:
S&P at 450. That's my final offer.
Gareth G Mon Mar 30 15:15:12 2009 CDT #
CAPTCHA says:
With sales tax going up in several states tax-free AMZN stands to gain more traffic, no?
CAPTCHA Mon Mar 30 15:16:25 2009 CDT #
NateTG says:
Huh, Seems like we're tracking GD1 pretty well right now.... Hey, the US got through that one OK, right?
NateTG Mon Mar 30 15:17:19 2009 CDT #
citiprank says:
Amazon actually sells food, clothes and other essentials now.. in fact they sell almost everything
citiprank Mon Mar 30 15:17:39 2009 CDT #
Mean Flurry Kitten says:
Bear just trout smacking those bottom callers...it really likes to do that.
Mean Flurry Kitten Mon Mar 30 15:18:20 2009 CDT #
Werner says:
O/T :
Russia backs return to Gold Standard to solve financial crisis
Russia has become the first major country to call for a partial restoration of the Gold Standard to uphold discipline in the world financial system.
Arkady Dvorkevich, the Kremlin's chief economic adviser, said Russia would favour the inclusion of gold bullion in the basket-weighting of a new world currency based on Special Drawing Rights issued by the International Monetary Fund.
(http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/financetopics/g20-summit/5072484/Russia-backs-return-to-Gold-Standard-to-solve-financial-crisis.html)
Russia teaching the american credit-dopes a lesson !
Werner Mon Mar 30 15:18:34 2009 CDT #
MS says:
Survey says.....bullshit.
If you understand how the TED is calculated (and that's being far too generous calling it a calculation) you know this already.
AMZN is just a tool for the very few who hold large chunks of it. It's nothing more than Bezos being paid back for his former job(s).
Ciao
MS
MS Mon Mar 30 15:19:19 2009 CDT #
energyecon says:
AMZN tax free status will be put on endangered species list as local gov'ts desperate for cash will get Congressional action rolling on that...bank on it. Question is when.
energyecon Mon Mar 30 15:22:14 2009 CDT #
kiron says:
Counterpointer,
Have you been watching the longer term bond auctions? Has the Fed buying made any difference? I seem to recall that you were interested in them at one point.
kiron Mon Mar 30 15:22:59 2009 CDT #
Anonymous says:
Br'er Dawg says:Today, 1:14:54 PM
“The danger of Amazon is that it deals almost exclusively in discretionary items."
Until the items get taxed, amazon is not going anywhere. But, I imagine that internet sales is a nice and juicy target in all state capitals.
Anonymous Mon Mar 30 15:23:23 2009 CDT #
Angry Saver says:
A few tidbits to keep in mind.
First, the Nikkei 225 decline is MUCH worse than shown on the charts. In 1989, the Nikkei 225 peaked at ~ 39,000. A few weeks ago, the Nikkei was trading at 7900 - a decline of 80% over a 20 year period! That's on par with the 1929 Dow crash (no soup lines, life goes on). Don't worry though, the fed and wall street would never allow THAT to happen here.
Second, I would argue that the S&P 500's decline started in the year 2000. A foolish re-flation courtesy of Alan Greenpan notwithstanding. Greenspan's financial shenanigans made the majority much poorer. The Bush/Obama bank giveaways will make the majority poorer still.
Prosperity took early retirement with many in the financial community. Now the baby busters can't retire.
Thanks wall street. Enjoy the bonuses. Thanks fed.
Angry Saver Mon Mar 30 15:24:09 2009 CDT #
goadam says:
I suspect some of the bonus money is going to Yankees tickets. $75 to sit in the bleachers.
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goadam Mon Mar 30 15:52:45 2009 CDT #
gr8f8 says:
Actually feel less bad about boomers who are about to retire, and those that have retired in the last 5 years. At least one group still(?) has jobs.
gr8f8 Mon Mar 30 15:27:24 2009 CDT #
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New York state already took care of this. All items purchased for delivery to anywhere in NY through Amazon are now subject to paying state sales tax.
http://consumerist.com/5130843/amazon-loses-challenge-on-ny-state-sales-tax
Mike in Long Island Mon Mar 30 15:27:55 2009 CDT #
donna says:
Hit the top of the channel and going back down, who is surprised by this?
donna Mon Mar 30 15:29:00 2009 CDT #
Barley says:
Bought more FAZ on Friday last. . Closed out the positon today to hold none. 22 points to the up side made for a good one day move. I would love to hold on, but... but I still think there is going to ba a face ripping ralley...Taking a good look at coal companies. Like Nova Chem a smart bottom pick might be fruitfull.
Barley Mon Mar 30 15:29:29 2009 CDT #
Br\'er Dawg says:
Anonymous says:Today, 1:23:23 PM PDT
Br'er Dawg says:Today, 1:14:54 PM
“The danger of Amazon is that it deals almost exclusively in discretionary items."
Until the items get taxed, amazon is not going anywhere. But, I imagine that internet sales is a nice and juicy target in all state capitals.
Ding! Ding! Ding!
Yes, their margins minus sales taxes equals tech bubble.
Br\'er Dawg Mon Mar 30 15:29:55 2009 CDT #
EvilHenryPaulson says:
http://www.printthis.clickability.com/pt/cpt?action=cpt&title=My+Manhattan+Project&expire=&urlID=35003522&fb=Y&url=http%3A%2F%2Fnymag.com%2Fnews%2Fbusiness%2F55687%2F&partnerID=73272
Everyone has their own tell-all story now. This one is by someone who programmed the software to construct CMOs from underlying mortgages
EvilHenryPaulson Mon Mar 30 15:30:33 2009 CDT #
Comrade Elmer Fudd says:
how do you guys do those cool posts that make your comments look like you are a heavy duty programmer? (snark off)
Comrade Elmer Fudd Mon Mar 30 15:31:31 2009 CDT #
Tim waiting for 2012 says:
I know everyone has been waiting my market musings...
I think we hit new lows again before another bear rally. We get more optimistic evertime we rally off a low even if that was a new low and a lower high. The doward spiral of credit losses causing bank writedowns causing pullback in lending has not been stopped.
Tim waiting for 2012 Mon Mar 30 15:32:16 2009 CDT #
CRbot says:
The Latest from Ritholz:
G.M. Stands For . . .
CRbot Mon Mar 30 15:32:54 2009 CDT #
Nemo says:
How do we know the 1929 bear market ever ended?
Nemo Mon Mar 30 15:34:16 2009 CDT #
Jas says:
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Russians helped the Anglos win the WW II and Americans came out on the top.
This time around the Chinese will win the WW III (economic war) and Americans, led by CROOKS, will be soundly defeated.
Jas
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Jas Mon Mar 30 15:44:36 2009 CDT #
Cinco-X says:
Perhaps, but how many Chinese will starve? 100 Million?
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Cinco-X Mon Mar 30 16:14:31 2009 CDT #
Cinco-X says:
Good question; has anyone done an inflation adjusted chart of the DOW since 1928? For that matter since 1872?
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Cinco-X Mon Mar 30 16:13:20 2009 CDT #
Calculated Risk says:
Jerry, that deal died (no financing). My friend is bored to tears - that was going to give him a great project! At least he has a job ...
best wishes
Calculated Risk Mon Mar 30 15:35:52 2009 CDT #
debtinator says:
peak snark?
debtinator Mon Mar 30 15:37:42 2009 CDT #
MS says:
I can't wait to see how the various lack of earnings to be reported very soon are spun. Notice how the "job loss" reporting has quieted down?
It's either going to be a new record high or show a small improvement. The problem is that the market will go up in either case.
Ciao
MS
MS Mon Mar 30 15:38:43 2009 CDT #
Anonymous says:
peak snark on CR will be TEOTAWKI
Anonymous Mon Mar 30 15:39:20 2009 CDT #
bernandoo says:
pretty weak volume today... any thoughts?
bernandoo Mon Mar 30 15:40:11 2009 CDT #
Nemo says:
Cowabunga?
Nemo Mon Mar 30 15:42:09 2009 CDT #
Michael says:
Is the answer "Gus" correct nova?
Michael Mon Mar 30 15:42:10 2009 CDT #
energyecon says:
Deutsche Bank’s Banziger Says Crisis ‘Far From Over’ (Update1)
By Aaron Kirchfeld
March 30 (Bloomberg) -- Deutsche Bank AG Chief Risk Officer Hugo Banziger said the global credit crisis is “far from over” and global financial regulations must be overhauled to regain investor trust.
“We are in the middle of it,” Banziger, 53, said today at an event at the Frankfurt School of Finance and Management. The industry has “an opportunity” to build a stable financial system that seeks higher capital buffers, and encourage investors to return money to the market and help stem the crisis, he said.
Deutsche Bank in February reported its first annual deficit in more than 50 years after the worst financial crisis since the Great Depression pummeled bond and stock trading. The crisis has caused $1.3 trillion in losses for financial companies worldwide, a total that may climb to more than $3 trillion, Banziger said today, citing forecasts.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aSNUHSxPYMbg&refer=home
energyecon Mon Mar 30 15:44:10 2009 CDT #
Interesting Times says:
MS - holding FAZ overnight (bought it at 19.30 back on thurs and held the weekend) I was the anon tht posted last week.
I expect a gap UP tomorrow... which will fade.
Interesting Times Mon Mar 30 15:45:02 2009 CDT #
Dead_Monkey_Bounce says:
Nemo, it ended by definition, a high greater than the previous high was reached.
Dead_Monkey_Bounce Mon Mar 30 15:46:02 2009 CDT #
syvanen says:
What do people think of buying those private-public bonds with 4X leverage Geitner announced last week? Has PIMCO made any offering on these yet?
I went through a few scenarios and they seem like fairly solid deal. Lender and investor absorb the loses but only the investor keeping any capital gains. That is profitable even if you overpay for the securities.
syvanen Mon Mar 30 15:46:29 2009 CDT #
hogjowls says:
Jas, America will kick China ... and India's ass if they attack. Ask Mexico about what wimps we are.
hogjowls Mon Mar 30 15:47:57 2009 CDT #
MS says:
I.T.-
Still have mine.....possibly add to it on the much anticipated pump for the qtr. print.....based on today, unless the "O'siah" figures out how to turn crap into gold, whatever pump they get out of tomorow is just that...a pump.
Ciao
MS
MS Mon Mar 30 15:49:31 2009 CDT #
EvilHenryPaulson says:
syvanen,
6:1 leverage through guaranteed FDIC bonds and option for 50% equity participation from the Treasury's TARP funds... if I'm not mistaken
EvilHenryPaulson Mon Mar 30 15:50:16 2009 CDT #
picosec says:
I find the logarthmic version of "Four Bad Bears" to be even more informative.
http://dshort.com/charts/bears-nominal-real.html?four-bears-log-scale
picosec Mon Mar 30 15:50:44 2009 CDT #
Tim waiting for 2012 says:
Interesting, MS
I have to wonder over a week whether there is less risk and more than 50% of the gain in shorting the weakest banks rather than holding those leveraged ETF'S
Tim waiting for 2012 Mon Mar 30 15:52:03 2009 CDT #
nova says:
Michael says:
Today, 4:42:10 PM
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Sorry Michael. Should I say cold? warm? when you get close?
nova Mon Mar 30 15:52:15 2009 CDT #
Michael says:
Gus the ugly dog: three legs, one eye and no hair ( And he is dead)
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/entertainment/2008011082_eye22.html
I was going to say The Egyptian book of the Dead, but I thought Gus was a better answer. Humor me.
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Michael Mon Mar 30 16:29:37 2009 CDT #
MS says:
Man fires at McDonald's window over breakfast menu
From Associated Press
March 30, 2009 4:10 PM EDT
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SALT LAKE CITY - Police said a customer fired one or two shots into a Salt Lake City McDonald's after the driver of the car he was in was told the restaurant was not serving lunch yet. Police said the female driver of a white Dodge Intrepid pulled up to the drive-thru and ordered from the lunch menu early Sunday but was told only breakfast was available.
Police said two men then got out of the car and one pulled a sawed-off shotgun from the trunk, shooting into the drive-thru window once or twice, The Salt Lake Tribune reported Monday. No one was injured.
The car then left the scene.
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Information from: The Salt Lake Tribune, http://www.sltrib.com
.......
Ciao
MS
MS Mon Mar 30 15:53:36 2009 CDT #
nova says:
Werner, How much is a football game in munich? Good seats?
nova Mon Mar 30 15:53:55 2009 CDT #
Tim waiting for 2012 says:
MS
Cripes I guess they wanted "their way".
Tim waiting for 2012 Mon Mar 30 15:55:57 2009 CDT #
MS says:
Tim-
Ever try getting shorts for stocks under $5?...virtually impossible at the retail level. I even looked at shorting FAZ when it went over 100.....not possible unless a very large (up to 25%) premium is paid for in advance.
There's a strategy.....and then the execution of it.
Ciao
MS
MS Mon Mar 30 15:56:33 2009 CDT #
Max says:
From Drudge:
<tt><tt>Video: Laid off workers brawl over lost jobs...</tt></tt>
Max Mon Mar 30 15:59:08 2009 CDT #
nades says:
Max that video is no longer available. Too bad... I love watching street fights on youtube. :-D
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nades Mon Mar 30 16:13:48 2009 CDT #
nades says:
This was posted under that video about the brawl:
**When General Motors Chairman and CEO Rick Wagoner leaves the automaker, he'll take with him a financial package worth an estimated $23 million.**
Does anyone know if there is any truth to it? Signed a BBAD 4 Eva!
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nades Mon Mar 30 16:15:26 2009 CDT #
nades says:
I rather enjoy talking to myself.... LOL!
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nades Mon Mar 30 16:15:44 2009 CDT #
Doc at the Radar Station says:
Here it is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBdUH1GTekk
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Doc at the Radar Station Mon Mar 30 16:52:25 2009 CDT #
nades says:
Doc - thanks!
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nades Mon Mar 30 17:15:11 2009 CDT #
Hal says:
Just as I predicted. The 2007 crash is now following the 1929 crash very closely. Blue overlaps grey almost exactly. I see much more downside.
Hal Mon Mar 30 15:59:37 2009 CDT #
Tim waiting for 2012 says:
Ms True but I was talking about WFC, JPM, UBS, GE, BAC basket or something...
There is a scary correlation in those charts between the Nikkei, NASDAQ, and our present SP 500 don't think we will go as low but the pattern is there.
Tim waiting for 2012 Mon Mar 30 16:00:00 2009 CDT #
Dash says:
So now it's not a Credit Crisis, but rather just a Crisis?
Dash Mon Mar 30 16:00:37 2009 CDT #
JP says:
I find the logarthmic version of "Four Bad Bears" to be even more informative.
That graph was not made by somebody who understands logarithms very well.
JP Mon Mar 30 16:02:03 2009 CDT #
Believer Jeff says:
Nova,
I paid 70 Euro for pretty good seats 2 years ago. From their site it look slike that is about face value now. Not sure on CL prices. I would imagine more.
Believer Jeff Mon Mar 30 16:03:16 2009 CDT #
briwerk says:
" There is a scary correlation in those charts between the Nikkei, NASDAQ, and our present SP 500 don't think we will go as low but the pattern is there."
Why wouldn't we go as low? Do you have any reasoning to support your assertion, or do the thoughts just fly out uncontrollably?
briwerk Mon Mar 30 16:04:07 2009 CDT #
Black Star Ranch says:
.....the unfair advantage of an AIG (in insurance underwriting), a GM (in auto manufacture), a BofA (in banking), etc., spells doom for companies that have run their businesses correctly/diligently. They not only have to deal with a smaller "pie" (a more frugal consumer), but also a bigger 800 lb. pig at the trough (the subsidied competitor). It makes all firms much weaker. I tend to believe that the blow-up from "CDS warfare" would be less painful and much quicker than what will transpire by picking and choosing where you walk while disarming landmines. The present course though DOES give government control over "who lives and who dies" - usually according to previous campaign contributions. I think THAT is the CRUX of the decision-making; the "good-old-boy" network.
Anybody here that counters this with the typical "well, the Repubs did it first....." argument, is a bigger idiot than the ones doing it now.
Black Star Ranch Mon Mar 30 16:04:35 2009 CDT #
Tim waiting for 2012 says:
I think that the Shangai Market will end up looking like the NASDAQ.
Lots of similarities IMO. Few blue chips (MSFT, PTR) lots of fly-by-night start ups (CROX China.com), hot companies that last a few years than fade (GOOG BIDU) , Easier to list dynamic changing fundamentals lots of Sideways action
Tim waiting for 2012 Mon Mar 30 16:07:25 2009 CDT #
JP says:
OT: Bank Walkaways. http://tinyurl.com/df9nao
Maybe not news to everyone here, but news to me.
JP Mon Mar 30 16:08:31 2009 CDT #
energyecon says:
picosec,
I also like the 4 Bears Real and Real With Alternate CPI...underperforming the DOW in the GD decline in both cases.
energyecon Mon Mar 30 16:11:20 2009 CDT #
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CRbot Mon Mar 30 16:14:42 2009 CDT #
Maybe Jas was NOT negative enough says:
Who killed the US Public Pension System?
http://thebarricadeblog.com/2009/03/28/who-killed-the-us-public-pension-system/
Maybe Jas was NOT negative enough Mon Mar 30 16:16:27 2009 CDT #
krid says:
I do get pretty angry when they aren't serving lunch yet... but not enough to shoot the place up. Stop serving breakfast at 10:30 AM after a night of drinking, however, and all bets are off.
krid Mon Mar 30 16:17:19 2009 CDT #
MS says:
CL tickets, if you can even get them are between 150-250 Euro (these are seats that you can actually see something)....that's face value....says nothing about resale value though. I looked at going to the
Man U.-Inter game (I hate english football....long ball-o-rama..I really thought JM could pull one over on SAF) and the prices for resold tickets were 2-3x face.
I found a great price on airfare (only $500 r/t) decent place to stay in Milan...about $150 a night. But the cost of the game ticket sort of made my "hey honey I found a great price on ________" sale job a bit moot.
Ciao
MS
MS Mon Mar 30 16:18:14 2009 CDT #
Black Star Ranch says:
Whew.....Vince "Shamwow" Shlomi nearly got his "tongue" bit off by an irate hooker and then commenced to beat the crap out of her trying to get his tongue back. Fortunately it was his tongue.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/03/27/vince-shlomi-shamwow-pitc_n_180210.html
Black Star Ranch Mon Mar 30 16:19:48 2009 CDT #
PP says:
On the FOUR BEARS chart, the Nazdaq bottom's out at 49.1% at month 30.
On the Mega-Bear Quartet, the Nazdaq bottom's out at around 78% at around the same time, what am i missing? The both start within 14 days on each graph.
PP Mon Mar 30 16:30:58 2009 CDT #
Anonymous says:
PP -- The Four Bad Bears chart shows the S&P 500 for the 2000-2002 decline, not the NASDAQ. Note the text under the title.
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Anonymous Mon Mar 30 18:14:08 2009 CDT #
Lawyerliz says:
Belongs in the dead thread below, but the hub might get off his tushy and buy a car if there is a juicy tax refund.
Lawyerliz Mon Mar 30 16:34:37 2009 CDT #
nades says:
LL this tread is dead tooo! :D
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nades Mon Mar 30 16:39:57 2009 CDT #
briwerk says:
This is a test of the CRbot synchronization system.
briwerk Mon Mar 30 21:27:12 2009 CDT #
briwerk says:
This is a test of the CRbot synchronization system.
briwerk Mon Mar 30 21:56:22 2009 CDT #
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