Comments for 2007 Data: Record Number of Babies Born in U.S.
Nemo says:
Every generation gets a little bit more stupid.
Nemo Wed Mar 18 20:57:26 2009 CDT #
Guest says:
This is extraordinarily unusual for a developed nation! WTH?
Guest Wed Mar 18 20:57:43 2009 CDT #
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Anonymous says:
octopost
Anonymous Wed Mar 18 20:59:42 2009 CDT #
1 currency [yogi] says:
CR: "Race" is a term with no scientific usefulness at all.
1 currency [yogi] Wed Mar 18 21:00:53 2009 CDT #
Comrade Bear (tj and the bear) says:
The next round of Boomers will also benefit from being babies of the Greater Depression. Of course, that could shorten the K-wave the next time around.
Comrade Bear (tj and the bear) Wed Mar 18 21:02:55 2009 CDT #
Michael says:
test
Michael Wed Mar 18 21:05:11 2009 CDT #
Michael says:
Best show so far.
03/18/2009 Freedom Watch 6: Alex Jones, Ron Paul, Lew Rockwell, Peter Schiff, Andy Levy, Mark Skousen, Cody Willard
http://freedomwatchonfox.com/
Michael Wed Mar 18 21:06:12 2009 CDT #
Comrade Bear (tj and the bear) says:
Oh, and CR...
I think it's pretty obvious that those kids won't have to pay off our debt, since it's all denominated in a currency that will disappear long before then.
Comrade Bear (tj and the bear) Wed Mar 18 21:06:30 2009 CDT #
Big Knocker says:
These birth statistics are fine, but can you please provide another post that explains how many bottoms housing will/may have? I am not yet clear on that.
Keep spreading the optimism and goodwill.
Cheers.
Big Knocker Wed Mar 18 21:06:32 2009 CDT #
Anonymous says:
Screwing like a bunch of rabbits, ain't got no job so might as well lay around the house and scrunch.
Anonymous Wed Mar 18 21:07:44 2009 CDT #
The Fly says:
No Comment. Seriously.
The Fly Wed Mar 18 21:08:19 2009 CDT #
Tim waiting for 2012 says:
There was a study that UCLA did to estimate the number of households that would be created in the next 10 years and there was an error that caused them to overestimate household creation. I'll try to find it. A lot of Home builders used to cite it.
Tim waiting for 2012 Wed Mar 18 21:09:55 2009 CDT #
Tim waiting for 2012 says:
CR I read that during recessions birthrate actually increases...
Tim waiting for 2012 Wed Mar 18 21:10:46 2009 CDT #
Comrade Bear (tj and the bear) says:
Denninger on Quantitative Easing:
http://market-ticker.denninger.net/archives/878-Caution-On-Quantitative-Easing-QE.html
Comrade Bear (tj and the bear) Wed Mar 18 21:11:21 2009 CDT #
The Great Tupuli says:
There is no evidence in this 2007 data of families putting off having children now. In fact the birth rate and total fertility rate were increasing in 2007.
Young, unwed minorities are not known for their financial planning.
The Great Tupuli Wed Mar 18 21:13:49 2009 CDT #
The Fly says:
The secret to life is Quantitave Easing.
Sort of like easing mustard out from the plastic container. A million ways to make a hamburger, but it is still a hamburger.
The Fly Wed Mar 18 21:14:24 2009 CDT #
doug r says:
Well, we do need them to pay MY Social Security... :-$
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doug r Wed Mar 18 21:18:31 2009 CDT #
dryfly says:
Now we know who will pay off all that debt!
They'll have their own debt to deal with - nothing much ever changes... well except maybe the number of digits on the bills.
dryfly Wed Mar 18 21:18:01 2009 CDT #
Barley says:
Well more breeders so society can provide essentiasl services. Beter solution - increase immigration of workers who may want a job.
Barley Wed Mar 18 21:18:30 2009 CDT #
Rajesh says:
I predict that the 2010 census will be the high water mark for U.S. population for the twenty-first century. With TFR just at replacement levels and less immigration, we will see actual (small) drops in overall population as the baby boomers advance to higher mortality age groups. This will eliminate economic growth based on population expansion but will probably result in increased capital deployed per worker resulting in higher Total Factor Productivity.
Rajesh Wed Mar 18 21:18:45 2009 CDT #
reptillian says:
Welcome, new taxpayers!
reptillian Wed Mar 18 21:19:12 2009 CDT #
Chris Dodd, et. al., is a Douche says:
Buyer's Remorse
The government's phony outrage over the AIG bonuses
http://www.reason.com/news/show/132303.html
Chris Dodd, et. al., is a Douche Wed Mar 18 21:19:40 2009 CDT #
Spaceman Spiff says:
I suspect that the birth rate increase may also track closely with the illegal immigration statistics for the last few years.
Spaceman Spiff Wed Mar 18 21:20:31 2009 CDT #
Pavel says:
Want to live in a cyber café?: A country with an aging population copes:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/world_news_america/7951800.stm
Pavel Wed Mar 18 21:20:38 2009 CDT #
The Great Tupuli says:
Rajesh, look at the demographic breakdown. The US will grow indefinitely, but its complexion will change.
The Great Tupuli Wed Mar 18 21:21:58 2009 CDT #
Barley says:
FAS worked well today. Backed the truck up on FAZ at the close. Not betting on the Ts. To early to tell.
Im placing bets on utilites that have or work in a regulated environment.
Short on some Oil/Gas juniors...man its going to be a tought year. I suspect most will see 50% haircut in revs.
Barley Wed Mar 18 21:22:37 2009 CDT #
dryfly says:
This will eliminate economic growth based on population expansion but will probably result in increased capital deployed per worker resulting in higher Total Factor Productivity.
You mean as in *INVEST* in machines and *WORK* at making stuff? Rajesh... that is crazy think. You must not have been born here or didn't pay attention when everyone else was watching 'Friends'. Dopes don't invest... they don't work either.
[/sarcasm]...
dryfly Wed Mar 18 21:23:43 2009 CDT #
Barley says:
"Dopes don't invest... they don't work either"
dryfly
+3!
If I may - dont invest for the long term, anyway.
Barley Wed Mar 18 21:25:17 2009 CDT #
Blackhalo says:
"Young, unwed minorities are not known for their financial planning."
I do not think that this increase is limited to minorities. I have seen an increased number of pregnant women and newborns in many of the circles I travel. My suspicion is that with the doubts around social security and the economy in general, that those in uncertain economic situations are hedging their bets with bigger families to care for them in ol
Blackhalo Wed Mar 18 21:25:44 2009 CDT #
norma says:
I wonder what affiliation this growth spurt has?
norma Wed Mar 18 21:27:06 2009 CDT #
Barley says:
Blackhalo
Have octuplets and sure to God one of 'em will at some point earn a pay check
Barley Wed Mar 18 21:27:43 2009 CDT #
Interesting Times says:
Great...My son was born in 2007. Man... he's really gonna hate me in 20 years.
Interesting Times Wed Mar 18 21:31:48 2009 CDT #
sneeringnihilist says:
i know two pregnant women. both are unemployed and both have walked away from their houses. both are still married with working husbands. one runs a retail store, the other waits tables.
the retail guy thinks the world is headed for tougher times, but the server guy thinks everything will pick right back up.
i know we have a lot of restaurant experts in here so the following morsel is for the rest of you. the waiter (server) makes more than the us median annual household salary for 2007 (per wikipedia) of 50k. that can't be! the experts may exclaim. it's true.
sneeringnihilist Wed Mar 18 21:32:01 2009 CDT #
Grumps says:
Great. More kids that need to get OFF my damn LAWN!
Grumps Wed Mar 18 21:32:58 2009 CDT #
BR says:
In a reprise of the 90s, just as I retire in 2037, I'll be able to dump my 401K holdings onto my 2007-born daughter and her ilk.
BR Wed Mar 18 21:34:11 2009 CDT #
Basel Too says:
In 2006-2008, babies became a fashion accessory after spoiled princesses got bored with their toy dogs.
Britney Spears, Jessica Alba, Nicole Ritchie, etc.
On a more serious note, Timothy Geithner is truly a dead man walking. He's understaffed, in way over his head. Shelby practically called for him to resign.
Two big problems. First, his removal could be more unsettling than keeping him in place, especially if seen as a knee-jerk reaction. Second, there really is no infrastructure at treasury.
If people think that the AIG fiasco is looking bad for Obama, wait till the stuff from the stimulus starts coming out... It takes infrastructure to efficiently spend $500-600B, ignoring the tax cuts.
Basel Too Wed Mar 18 21:35:34 2009 CDT #
Anonymous says:
hey, this comment system works in Iceweasel. Nice!
So... how long before Ben's quantitative easing puts an end to the USSA as we've known it.
Anonymous Wed Mar 18 21:35:43 2009 CDT #
Blackhalo says:
Pretty quick, I suspect. I sure hope the formatting keeps.
Euro - USD \t1.3485 \t+0.0449 (3.44%)
USD - Yen \t96.2100 -2.4700 (-2.50%)
GBP - USD \t1.4286 \t+0.0224 (1.59%)
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Blackhalo Wed Mar 18 22:06:21 2009 CDT #
sporkfed says:
Hey, when you can't afford cable ...
sporkfed Wed Mar 18 21:36:24 2009 CDT #
Comrade Bear (tj and the bear) says:
Making babies isn't exactly good economic planning these days, what with Ben's inflating likely to show up in all the wrong places... like food. More mouths to feed, you know.
Comrade Bear (tj and the bear) Wed Mar 18 21:36:36 2009 CDT #
REBear says:
Dodd: Administration sought bonus limit revision
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/aig_bonus_congress
Over the years, Dodd has been the top recipient of campaign contributions from AIG employees. During 2007-2008, when he ran for president, he received nearly $104,000 from AIG employees and their families...
REBear Wed Mar 18 21:36:44 2009 CDT #
Tom Stone says:
Broward,start using condoms!
Tom Stone Wed Mar 18 21:37:04 2009 CDT #
sneeringnihilist says:
BR says "retire"
ha!
sneeringnihilist Wed Mar 18 21:37:22 2009 CDT #
babar says:
this birth thing is a fucking ponzi scheme.
(the 'fucking' part is literal.)
babar Wed Mar 18 21:40:47 2009 CDT #
sneeringnihilist says:
hell this is about as on topic as it can get!
i put a personal ad on craigslist about 3 weeks ago. whew! if any of you folks out there are bored you should post an ad.
i only got a couple of crazies
sneeringnihilist Wed Mar 18 21:41:14 2009 CDT #
Comrade Bear (tj and the bear) says:
OT, but since Ben has taken aim from his yacht and fired a shot across the bow of the bond trader's battleship, how long will it be before they unload a barrage and turn him into fish food? Denninger notes that the BOE's already taking fire...
Comrade Bear (tj and the bear) Wed Mar 18 21:41:31 2009 CDT #
rich says:
They can only defend the short end of the curve.
And that turf will keep getting shorter, until it's down to about a year or two. At that point, the U.S. govt. will be financing month to month, just like a lot of households.
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rich Wed Mar 18 22:03:07 2009 CDT #
EvilHenryPaulson says:
rich,
think about what you just said. they can only defend the biggest subset of the treasury market.
energyecon has charted it on his site if you like. Short end is in trillions, long end is in tens of billions.
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EvilHenryPaulson Wed Mar 18 22:05:33 2009 CDT #
sneeringnihilist says:
hmm... that didn't come out just right.
i only got a couple of crazies -- but -- i got a couple of really good replies also
sneeringnihilist Wed Mar 18 21:44:42 2009 CDT #
ac says:
I feel like I should be angry about something here. Any suggestions?
ac Wed Mar 18 21:46:10 2009 CDT #
Sue (Capital S) says:
Well, as a planet, we absolutely do not need a growing population of human beings crowding out every other living thing. Why can't we see that we have only this one planet, that the other creatures and life on it have value and deserve their own space?
I don't want to live in a world composed solely of megalopoli and high-consuming humans. I do not regret not having children, and feel that more people should seriously consider the option.
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Sue (Capital S) Thu Mar 19 03:53:06 2009 CDT #
homedad43 says:
Every time I changed a diaper, I could predict that I'd see a bottom. Damn if I wasn't right...
Since the birthrate data is for 2007, assume that most pregnancies occurred in 2006 and where were we in the cycle?
1. MSM fed the sense that things couldn't be better.
2. Most bought the notion that housing would only go up, so things might be tight for a bit but that would pass in a few years.
3. Another part of the equation would be how many were born to unwed mothers, particularly the single professional women. Not a nominally huge number perhaps, but a fair size cohort who were in the mid - thirties/early forties and watching the clock run down.
Talk to me about birthrate in about three years...
Oh yeah, I predict that Interesting Times will see a bottom in the next several hours.
homedad43 Wed Mar 18 21:47:07 2009 CDT #
Pitchforks,Torches&Pikes World says:
More people need to read the book "Limitation of Offspring" by Dr. Kutcha Kockoff
Pitchforks,Torches&Pikes World Wed Mar 18 21:48:36 2009 CDT #
octavio richetta says:
lots of babies is good for gdp
octavio richetta Wed Mar 18 21:49:44 2009 CDT #
sneeringnihilist says:
I feel like I should be angry about something here. Any suggestions?
that the growth rate is only a paltry 1%. we're mericans for cryin out loud. 5%! USA! 5%! USA!
sneeringnihilist Wed Mar 18 21:49:49 2009 CDT #
Comrade Bear (tj and the bear) says:
Any suggestions?
Nah, looks like you're getting comfortably numb.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkJNyQfAprY
Comrade Bear (tj and the bear) Wed Mar 18 21:51:05 2009 CDT #
homedad43 says:
ac:
If you gotta be angry, think about all of our precious landfill space taken up by bio-degradeable crap wrapped up in non-biodegradeable plastic disposal diapers.
Ya gotta love America.
homedad43 Wed Mar 18 21:51:15 2009 CDT #
Chicago Dude says:
If you gotta be angry, think about all of our precious landfill space taken up by bio-degradeable crap wrapped up in non-biodegradeable plastic disposal diapers.
They've got these new diaper things these days that have eco-friendly biodegradable inserts that go into the plastic liners. They also accept the cloth diapers as inserts so you can go for total reusability without sacrificing the dryness advantage of plastics.
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Chicago Dude Wed Mar 18 22:07:15 2009 CDT #
RockyR says:
Oh, woops! I'm the geek on Iceweasel.
When will the shtf over the US printing? Scenarios...
RockyR Wed Mar 18 21:51:22 2009 CDT #
homedad43 says:
ac:
Ordered the book "Limits of Power" and will have it in a few days...
homedad43 Wed Mar 18 21:52:01 2009 CDT #
dryfly says:
I feel like I should be angry about something here. Any suggestions?
Have you been getting laid? If not you should be DAMNED mad at all those F'ers making babies!
dryfly Wed Mar 18 21:54:31 2009 CDT #
homedad43 says:
Honestly, the rise in birth rate is a good thing so long as the babies aren't mine. We just have to get back to some basics in terms of philosophy: need vs want, spend vs save, etc.
homedad43 Wed Mar 18 21:54:32 2009 CDT #
ac says:
“ac:
Ordered the book "Limits of Power" and will have it in a few days...
Ah... hope you enjoy it. I just ordered "The Rise and Decline of Nations: Economic Growth, Stagflation, and Social Rigidities" by Mancur Olson. His other book I read "Power and Prosperity: Outgrowing Communist and Capitalist Dictatorships" is also high up on my recommended list (though parts of it are a little dry).
ac Wed Mar 18 21:56:54 2009 CDT #
EvilHenryPaulson says:
interesting to think that foreign markets will react to America's QE before America does
EvilHenryPaulson Wed Mar 18 21:56:59 2009 CDT #
homedad43 says:
Have you been getting laid?
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Naw, it cuts into my drinking and blogging time.
homedad43 Wed Mar 18 21:57:13 2009 CDT #
Comrade Bear (tj and the bear) says:
When will the shtf over the US printing? Scenarios...
We've been discussing scenarios here for the past 3+ years; haven't you been paying attention? :-D
Comrade Bear (tj and the bear) Wed Mar 18 21:57:52 2009 CDT #
ac says:
"I feel like I should be angry about something here. Any suggestions?"
Have you been getting laid? If not you should be DAMNED mad at all those F'ers making babies!
Damnit, now you've got me pissed off.
ac Wed Mar 18 21:57:56 2009 CDT #
Noni Mausa says:
Hmph. If the "rate" stays flat, as it has done since about 1975, but the number of babies increases, this simply means there are more women having babies. I'd venture to guess that the slope of the blue "number" line matches the slope of the increase in general US population.
At a rate of 67 babies per 1000 fertile-aged women per year, that's one baby for every 15 women. This is hardly bunny territory. The US birthrate is about 2.1 now -- which is no population growth, just replacement.
Do try to follow the numbers. It makes your arguments less frothy.
Noni
Noni Mausa Wed Mar 18 21:58:18 2009 CDT #
Anonymous says:
As homedad pointed out above, most 2007 births started in 2006, it's a very different world out there now.
And on this quote:
The preliminary estimate of the total fertility rate (TFR) in 2007 was 2,122.5 births per 1,000 women
I really can't wrap my head around this statistic. Will some kind soul explain this to me? I do not understand how you manage to get 2.12 births from each woman, what am I missing here?
Anonymous Wed Mar 18 21:58:48 2009 CDT #
Basel Too says:
ac: get mad over this
Obama's computer chief once shoplifted 4 shirts
Basel Too Wed Mar 18 21:59:00 2009 CDT #
Guest says:
"Over the years, Dodd has been the top recipient of campaign contributions from AIG employees. During 2007-2008, when he ran for president, he received nearly $104,000 from AIG employees and their families...
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You forgot to point out who was #2. Yes, it was Mr. "Hope & Change". He received a total of $101,332. The third highest was McInsane at $59,499. That's right, Dodd and Obama are definitely "outstanding" in the crowd of crooks.
Guest Wed Mar 18 21:59:46 2009 CDT #
ac says:
Have you been getting laid?
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Naw, it cuts into my drinking and blogging time.
Thank you.
I feel much better now.
ac Wed Mar 18 22:00:14 2009 CDT #
Comrade De Chaos says:
"lot'sof babies good for GDP"
depends, GDP/capita = GDP/(Number of people), so if GDP remains stead and # of people dramatically goes up ....
Comrade De Chaos Wed Mar 18 22:00:51 2009 CDT #
homedad43 says:
Dude, with what we're reading, it's no wonder we're not getting laid.
Scene at bar. Woman enters and sidles up to man nursing drink at the bar.
Her: Hi there. You look so deep in thought...are you thinking what I'm thinking?
Him: Huh? You're thinking about how to abolish the Federal Reserve System too?
Yep, we're a bunch of winners...
homedad43 Wed Mar 18 22:01:55 2009 CDT #
Chicago Dude says:
My wife and I are expecting. During the last visit to her doctor, he told her that they got very busy last year as the economy went south, but when things got worse a few months ago the number of new pregnancies fell off a cliff. He said it was the slowest he's ever seen it.
Chicago Dude Wed Mar 18 22:02:45 2009 CDT #
JimPortlandOR says:
But where will be the jobs be to give these folks a living? And where will the food come from? Worldwide, population growth will exceed the capacity of the earth's resources to provide decent existence for a large percentage of them. Malthus still lives.
JimPortlandOR Wed Mar 18 22:03:53 2009 CDT #
dryfly says:
If you gotta be angry, think about all of our precious landfill space taken up by bio-degradeable crap wrapped up in non-biodegradeable plastic disposal diapers.
My wife [a city-grrl] went through a back to nature phase right after our first two where born... ding-ding, a couple years apart. She belonged to a food co-op [like whole foods but without the profit - run by a bunch of strong but very nice ladies in comfortable shoes]... anyway she tried some 'compost friendly' disposable diapers they were pushing... the damned things were already composting before you could get them off the little nature lovers.
An idea that definitely needed a few million in 'stimulus' funding to be made to work.
Oh... and she also tried 'compost friendly' sanitary napkins... don't even mention that to her even though that was over 20 years ago... it will earn you 'the look' and a very cold one at that.
Ah the good old daze.
dryfly Wed Mar 18 22:04:25 2009 CDT #
Dope Alert says:
those mustard seeds are more like wasabi. kinda burns.
Dope Alert Wed Mar 18 22:04:55 2009 CDT #
Threads Must Die (aka bobn) says:
Basel Too says:
ac: get mad over this
There's also this - might explain the dearth of staffing at Treasury:
http://iowahawk.typepad.com/iowahawk/2009/02/dead-hobo-glitch-claims-another-obama-cabinet-appointee-.html
Threads Must Die (aka bobn) Wed Mar 18 22:05:36 2009 CDT #
rich says:
There is definitely a future for the U.S. economy out there with 350-400 million population. But for awhile, it's a future of more savings, less consumption, less construction, and definitely less financial services.
That alone adds up to below 1% real GDP growth for several years, especially with higher commodities inflation.
rich Wed Mar 18 22:06:02 2009 CDT #
homedad43 says:
JimPortlandOregon:
Malthus will be living in his parents' basement. Just like the rest of the world...
homedad43 Wed Mar 18 22:06:31 2009 CDT #
Michael says:
Luke 21:23
But woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck, in those days! for there shall be great distress in the land, and wrath upon this people.
Michael Wed Mar 18 22:06:35 2009 CDT #
Anonymous says:
What about The death rate? :-P
Anonymous Wed Mar 18 22:07:05 2009 CDT #
M, says:
Please Consider this editorial thoughtfully...
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"The Census Bureau projects that the United States population will reach a staggering 439 million by 2050. More than 130 million people, primarily driven by immigration, will be added in a scant 40 years. Before this ecological time bomb is released, we must take immigration reduction very seriously.
I understand this is a controversial topic. Unfortunately, extremists often have taken over discussion and their sound bites have taken precedence, while the vital issues are ignored. Frankly, no one wants to discuss it. But as a proud Mainer who was raised in environmental stewardship, I am bringing up the issue.
It is time that the United States limits all legal and illegal immigration. If the Census Bureau is correct, then by 2050, 130 million new residents (adults and children) will have to be accommodated. Enough land, pristine open space and healthy farmland, will be bulldozed, paved and developed for 52 million new home units. An estimated 36,000 new school facilities must be built to educate the new pupils. Many more Wal-Marts and big box chain stores will be constructed near these subdivisions. We'll see millions more miles of paved roads. Basically, all previous environmental achievements will be made feckless and pointless.
If we don't act, Maine and the United States will face ecosystem degradation of immense proportions. Whether Republican, Democrat, Green or Independent, we can work together for a greener future. First, though, we need to agree on one simple truth -- there is a limit to growth.
Benjamin R. Holmes
Portland
http://morningsentinel.mainetoday.com/view/letters/6075043.html
Kennebec Journal Morning Sentinel"
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M, Wed Mar 18 22:07:20 2009 CDT #
M, says:
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Please also visit
http://www.numbersusa.com
Thank you
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M, Wed Mar 18 22:08:15 2009 CDT #
Anonymous says:
This calls for some really bad thread music:
Olivia Newton-John Have You Never Been Mellow (Live
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IFQZyxxyyM
Yah baby!
Anonymous Wed Mar 18 22:09:25 2009 CDT #
Anonymous says:
Population growth world wide is about 2% per year, relax baby! :*
Anonymous Wed Mar 18 22:10:17 2009 CDT #
homedad43 says:
Dryfly:
LOL.
With first one on way, I also flirted with politically correct cloth diapers 'til my wife explained about having to swish them in the toilet.
Forget that...
Comfortable shoes? LOL.
homedad43 Wed Mar 18 22:10:49 2009 CDT #
Anonymous says:
homedad,
I swished diapers for almost two years and used about one box of plastics; the world is better because of me! 8-)
Anonymous Wed Mar 18 22:12:53 2009 CDT #
Dope Alert says:
as a current non parent(that i know of) i could never understand why people would spend so much on diapers. it ain't natural! but the same people will let their new puppy poop inside the house.
Dope Alert Wed Mar 18 22:13:45 2009 CDT #
Dope Alert says:
Population growth world wide is about 2% per year, relax baby!
So that means there's at least 240 million more people born since the market peaked!
BOTTTTTTOM!!!!
Dope Alert Wed Mar 18 22:15:31 2009 CDT #
Interesting Times says:
homedad43 - We have seen more bottoms than has been called in this market - so far.
(fyi: I'm about to tippy toe into FAZ after the open tomorrow.)
Interesting Times Wed Mar 18 22:16:36 2009 CDT #
Blackhalo says:
"I'm about to tippy toe into FAZ after the open tomorrow." I am sorely tempted to do a well out of the money straddle on FAZ at this point. Things are starting to get interesting again, and that means some wild volatility. I'd like to make some money on any 500pt moves.
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Blackhalo Wed Mar 18 22:20:38 2009 CDT #
EvilHenryPaulson says:
probably easier to fit the nursery with a drain, line the room with plastic tarp a few feet high, and then hose it down as necessary
they can easily stay home in their poo-proof room or the backyard for the first year, and after that they are potty trained
EvilHenryPaulson Wed Mar 18 22:18:20 2009 CDT #
Rob Dawg says:
there is a limit to growth.
Benjamin R. Holmes
Portland ME
Kennebec Journal Morning Sentinel"
Maine. LOL. 33,414 sq mi
2008\t2000\t1990
Population\t1,316,456\t1,274,923\t1,227,928
Less population growth over the same period than Oxnard 36.6 sq miles.
Rob Dawg Wed Mar 18 22:20:36 2009 CDT #
dryfly says:
With first one on way, I also flirted with politically correct cloth diapers 'til my wife explained about having to swish them in the toilet.
Ya we did that too. All three of them cloth diapers... but the last one we had a diaper service so didn't wash in the home. Good thing the Mississippi flows nearby... it takes a lot of water to wash diapers in the home.
Another thing I learned - somebody should design a dual purpose diaper bucket... stores crappy diapers AND provides methane to power the neighborhood. 'Yes' they do 'off-gas' just a little bit.
dryfly Wed Mar 18 22:22:21 2009 CDT #
Michael says:
Wanted kids but, knowing what was coming 20 years ago and the kind of world that was being set up for them I did not want to be responsible for bringing a new soul into this world. Perhaps after the revolution and things begin to look a lot brighter, but not until then.
Michael Wed Mar 18 22:23:27 2009 CDT #
Anonymous says:
For The Love Of Tanta, can we please find some grammer cops??
Re: The original baby bust last throughout the '30s. =-X
Anonymous Wed Mar 18 22:23:37 2009 CDT #
Bubblisimo Gerkinov says:
Let me tell you about cloth diapers - you have to wash them or have them washed by a service, so the environmental benefits might be offset somewhat. However, your kid won't be wearing them until they are 6. Cloth diapers are uncomfortable. As soon as a toddler wetes them, they take them off. Soon they figure out that they can take them off before they wet them. My first kid pissed on the floor a few times, whatever. She toilet trained herself when she was 1 and a bit. The boy took a bit longer, as boys do.
Bubblisimo Gerkinov Wed Mar 18 22:23:43 2009 CDT #
ATM card and $19 in the bank says:
"they can easily stay home in their poo-proof room or the backyard for the first year, and after that they are potty trained"
Your views on this may change once you have kids.
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ATM card and $19 in the bank Wed Mar 18 22:24:42 2009 CDT #
EvilHenryPaulson says:
I'm hoping there is a nice dependable robot that changes, cleans, and dries cloth diapers by then rendering my folly obsolete
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EvilHenryPaulson Wed Mar 18 22:30:21 2009 CDT #
Basel Too says:
For The Love Of Tanta, can we please find some grammer cops??
Spelling too.
Basel Too Wed Mar 18 22:25:01 2009 CDT #
Chip says:
IMO, the only reason there is such an increase in births recently, relatively to 1929 and subsequent depression years, is confidence among the child-bearers that someone else will pay their expenses. In 1920s America, that was not a sure thing. Today, it is easy to assume that someone else will pay for your care and maintenance, no matter what. We have taught the welfare society to believe it and we have provided enough tax money to prove it. Again IMO, anyone who ever reelected anyone in Washington shares part of the blame for this, if, as I, you consider it a bad outcome.
Chip Wed Mar 18 22:25:28 2009 CDT #
Anonymous says:
Or maybe it's just because bringing life into the world adds more value than just about anything else we do here. Come on. Have a little perspective. Someone thought YOU were worth having.
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Anonymous Thu Mar 19 00:16:21 2009 CDT #
rich says:
I have a good investment tip for you tonight.
Invest in companies that make ski helmets.
Good night.
rich Wed Mar 18 22:26:57 2009 CDT #
homedad43 says:
BobN:
thanks for the Iowahawk link...priceless.
M:
Since you've now brought those immigration numbers out onto a blog frequented by MSM journalists, expect a 300 point bounce on the Dow manana.
Anon:
Better you swishing than me. I'll donate money to some whale fund in your honor.
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CRbot Wed Mar 18 22:30:51 2009 CDT #
Pedant says:
Find some "grammer cops"? Uh, do you mean "grammar cops" or is there a problem with your grammer or grammper?
Pedant Wed Mar 18 22:31:41 2009 CDT #
Anonymous says:
The birth-rate race/age breakdown is irrelevant. The breakdown of births to income levels is what I want to see. How many of these new parents have the income to raise a child? The Suleman octuplets plus 6 siblings are government subsidized. How many more will be on the taxpayer dole?
Here's a fine example of freebies, LA Times: "Nadya Suleman has 14 children, including newborn octuplets. She has no job, no income and owes $50,000 in student loans....
But Suleman faces what are likely to be millions of dollars in medical bills alone, and it's increasingly likely that taxpayers will foot many of those bills.
Her family is eligible for large sums of public assistance money. Even before she gave birth to the octuplets Jan. 26, Suleman was receiving $490 in monthly food stamps, and three of her children were receiving federal supplemental security income because they are disabled.
Lowell Kepke, a spokesman for the San Francisco office of the Social Security Administration, said that a single parent with no income qualifies for up to $793 a month for each child with a physical or mental condition that results in "marked or severe functional limitations." That money is used for support and maintenance of the family, and Suleman would not be required to specifically account for how it is spent."
If Suleman's disabled children received the maximum payment, she would get nearly $2,900 a month in state and federal assistance, including the food stamps.
Anonymous Wed Mar 18 22:34:50 2009 CDT #
Blackhalo says:
"If Suleman's disabled children received the maximum payment, she would get nearly $2,900 a month in state and federal assistance, including the food stamps."
Better that, than them begging in the street, getting underfed w/o any form of health-care, resulting stunted physical and mental development. I would prefer to not be mugged by this ready made street gang.
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Blackhalo Thu Mar 19 00:25:06 2009 CDT #
Anonymous says:
40% of the new arrivals were born to unmarried mothers.
I love babies and children in general (my kids have strict orders to provide plenty of grandkids for mom!), but this is not a good statistic.
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Anonymous Thu Mar 19 09:51:15 2009 CDT #
ATM card and $19 in the bank says:
"I'm hoping there is a nice dependable robot that changes, cleans, and dries cloth diapers by then rendering my folly obsolete"
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I think I have good news for you: if you can afford the robot, you can afford whatever type of diaper works for you and you will find that changing your own kid's diaper is really not a big deal. For example, loading the dishwasher after dinner is a bigger burden... :-D
ATM card and $19 in the bank Wed Mar 18 22:37:56 2009 CDT #
EvilHenryPaulson says:
ATM card and $19 in the bank,
or maybe future Mrs EHP will enjoy poopy diapers and there won't be a need for a robot
surprised biodegradable plastic diapers aren't the norm, I know I had a pen made of biodegradable corn-based plastic over a decade ago
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EvilHenryPaulson Wed Mar 18 22:42:55 2009 CDT #
EvilHenryPaulson says:
http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/03/18/rtr.homedefenders/index.html
Keep your foreclosed home through civil disobedience with the help of mobs from the internet
EvilHenryPaulson Wed Mar 18 22:38:27 2009 CDT #
Comrade Coinz! says:
@anonymous:
"I swished diapers for almost two years and used about one box of plastics; the world is better because of me!"
You are a better person than me. We went thru lots of plastic diapers with both kids. The youngest is almost out of diapers. Thank glod for the diaper genie.
Comrade Coinz! Wed Mar 18 22:40:21 2009 CDT #
Guest says:
Children, the ultimate retirement investment. *DONT_KNOW*
Guest Wed Mar 18 23:06:59 2009 CDT #
1 currency [yogi] says:
I'm showing gld up $40. :-$ :-$ :-$
1 currency [yogi] Wed Mar 18 23:11:19 2009 CDT #
Purtle the Turtle says:
Looks like there could be a stampede out of us tres notes
Purtle the Turtle Wed Mar 18 23:12:09 2009 CDT #
Anonymous says:
EvilHenryPaulson says:Today, 8:42:55 PM“ surprised biodegradable plastic diapers aren't the norm, I know I had a pen made of biodegradable corn-based plastic over a decade ago
Ding ding ding! You may have a winner here! Pull dryfly in for manufacturing and homedad for marketing and both of them for general business expertise and the three of you are billionaires!
All I ask out of putting your deal together is that I don't have to eat cat/dog food in my retirement years, I am not greedy!
Seriously, I know you all were joking around, but if you know of a green technology that would let diapers biodegrade and you put that together with dryfly and homedad (and Mrs. homedad's M.D. recommendation), you guys could be solid. You need to trade email addresses. I'm not even kidding.
-AnonyMiss
Anonymous Wed Mar 18 23:12:24 2009 CDT #
Money Man says:
"Anchor Babies R Us"-English as a Second Language-New Business Venture-Anyone want to inject some fresh capital?
Money Man Wed Mar 18 23:15:02 2009 CDT #
dUCKdUCKgOOSE says:
LOL. You get it.
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dUCKdUCKgOOSE Thu Mar 19 08:38:18 2009 CDT #
donna says:
The spike in the late 80's is the 4.25 million kids of the "boomlet" now hitting our colleges, right when our idiot legislature in CA is cutting university budgets....
donna Wed Mar 18 23:20:17 2009 CDT #
dUCKdUCKgOOSE says:
Idiot.
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dUCKdUCKgOOSE Thu Mar 19 08:38:01 2009 CDT #
robert says:
You forgot to mention that THE MAJORITY OF THE BIRTHS ARE BY HISPANIC WOMEN. Illegal Aliens? Who knows?
USA = Third World Sh*t Hole
robert Wed Mar 18 23:20:50 2009 CDT #
dUCKdUCKgOOSE says:
LOL. YOU DA MAN!
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dUCKdUCKgOOSE Thu Mar 19 08:37:49 2009 CDT #
Anonymous says:
“In 2006-2008, babies became a fashion accessory after spoiled princesses got bored with their toy dogs.
Britney Spears, Jessica Alba, Nicole Ritchie, etc.
Priceless. You can apply that to every other 18-25 year old girl in America.
Anonymous Wed Mar 18 23:50:37 2009 CDT #
Anonymous says:
This shouldn't surprise people. Think octo-mom.
Anonymous Wed Mar 18 23:53:44 2009 CDT #
yield says:
The illegal alien rats pump them out. No birth control, courtesy the pope. Yeah, sounds harsh, but it's the truth. Let's triple the number of illegals, 4X the population and have everyone brought down to their level of squalor. Animals pump out pups because they have no control.
yield Thu Mar 19 00:07:45 2009 CDT #
Wu-Tang Financial says:
'The illegal alien rats pump them out. No birth control, courtesy the pope. Yeah, sounds harsh, but it's the truth. Let's triple the number of illegals, 4X the population and have everyone brought down to their level of squalor. Animals pump out pups because they have no control.'
Yeah, the U.S. doesn't do anything illegal within the borders of our southern neighbors. We're so good and they're so bad. Why can't everyone be pure, heaven-bound Calvinists like us.
yield, quit being such a baby. The blog says we've already got plenty.
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Wu-Tang Financial Thu Mar 19 04:11:41 2009 CDT #
dUCKdUCKgOOSE says:
You are a moron immigrant. If you hate the USA so much, PLEASE LEAVE MY COUNTRY!
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dUCKdUCKgOOSE Thu Mar 19 08:33:54 2009 CDT #
dUCKdUCKgOOSE says:
You're spot on. My sister was in the emergency room last year with her husband in upstate NY. He had a nasty, bleeding cut. There was a non-English-speaking illegal alien woman in front of him. My sister eventually got out of her that she was there to get birth control pills. Please tell me what's wrong with THAT picture.
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dUCKdUCKgOOSE Thu Mar 19 08:37:26 2009 CDT #
Anonymous says:
Thanks for mixing it up a bit with this post. Interesting and encouraging.
Anonymous Thu Mar 19 00:13:47 2009 CDT #
A.B Prosper says:
Most of this baby bump is from demographic momentum the gen Y late gen X OMG biological clock ticking MUST HAVE BABY NOW crowd. Its fully expected --
The bad parts parts come from unassimilated high natality immigrants and the fatherless underclass (who traditionally have more babies than they can afford) -- these are a ton of poor , out of wedlock babies being popped out into a bad economy --
because of this folly the US has two upcoming crime waves --
#1 in about 4 years as the biggest crop EVER (in raw numbers) set of kids is going to graduate right into the great recession --
About 10-14 years after that wave two (the bumper babies) will hit the streets
I suspect that if the economy is doing OK they'll stay home and play GTA 11 on the Sony PS 5 or whatever but if it isn't (and strongly doubt it will) the crime rate will go sky high
Interesting Times and all that
A.B Prosper Thu Mar 19 00:56:15 2009 CDT #
dUCKdUCKgOOSE says:
Another idiot.
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dUCKdUCKgOOSE Thu Mar 19 08:34:20 2009 CDT #
ecoshift says:
This is extraordinarily unusual for a developed nation! WTH?
We're all developing nations now...
~e
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ecoshift Thu Mar 19 02:18:08 2009 CDT #
firecat says:
Birth rate spikes in recession, yeah, but when did conception spike? Average recession in the last half century is what, around a year? One last pop of optimism before the bust? If this really is the great recession, or even GDII, just watch the birth rate go down.
firecat Thu Mar 19 07:50:22 2009 CDT #
dUCKdUCKgOOSE says:
But they left out the most important reason for why so many babies are being born...because illegal aliens are cranking out 3 for every 1 born to a US citizen. In California, Medi-Cal pays for every one of them too. Thanks a billion Arnold.
dUCKdUCKgOOSE Thu Mar 19 08:32:43 2009 CDT #
Ken says:
The increase is simply explained as rational economic actors in action. Consider Jonathan Swift's "A Modest Proposal"; or that line from Blackadder, "They are so poor that they are forced to have children as a cheap alternative to turkey at Christmas."
Ken Thu Mar 19 10:26:21 2009 CDT #
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