Comments for "Part Time for Economic Reasons Hits 9 Million"
Hysterian says:
I *guess* that these numbers aren't as heavily spun as unemployment. But Shadowstats doesn't have this data out for next-to-no-income folks like me, so I don't know.
Hysterian Fri Apr 3 08:25:11 2009 CDT #
Comrade Coinz! says:
we're all part-time now
Comrade Coinz! Fri Apr 3 08:25:24 2009 CDT #
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CRbot Fri Apr 3 08:25:36 2009 CDT #
CRbot says:
The Latest from Denninger:
Eric Holder: LIAR?
CRbot Fri Apr 3 08:26:39 2009 CDT #
Cinco-X says:
Is white collar crime code for putting more white people in jail. Let's face it. The real damage done here was by the top 1% of these clowns in finance. The rest were just worker bees trying to keep their jobs.
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Cinco-X Fri Apr 3 08:51:03 2009 CDT #
frazzle says:
BOSTON (MarketWatch) -- Mortgage giants Fannie Mae (FNM:
Fannie Mae
What is the bigger story this smoke screen is trying to cover up?
expect to pay about $210 million in retention bonuses to 7,600 employees over a year and a half, The Wall Street Journal reported Friday. The top retention bonus for any individual executive under the plan will total $1.5 million during the 18 months ending in early 2010, according to the report, which cited a letter from the mortgage firms' regulator
frazzle Fri Apr 3 08:27:37 2009 CDT #
blackhat says:
1099 work falls into this bucket.
I think this economy is shovel-ready, as in a few associates have decided to take it on a nice drive into the middle of a Jersey corn-field...
blackhat Fri Apr 3 08:30:13 2009 CDT #
Outsider says:
And the part-timers consider themselves fortunate.
Okay, enough kvetching for one day. I'm going to admire the crocuses. They give meaning right about now.
Outsider Fri Apr 3 08:30:44 2009 CDT #
Simian says:
I think that beginning this month the Dept of Labor should start using the new GAAP rules for Mark to Market in their reporting too. So if in a few years they expect unemployment to be back at 4%, they can adjust their current count to reflect 4%. Because it would be unfair to characterize the current unemployment based upon a short term problem.
Simian Fri Apr 3 08:31:05 2009 CDT #
Mad Mullah says:
Rate of rise...nearly asymptotic. These graphs are amazing.
Mad Mullah Fri Apr 3 08:31:21 2009 CDT #
CRbot says:
The Latest from Ritholz:
NFP Falls 663k
CRbot Fri Apr 3 08:33:05 2009 CDT #
blackhat says:
Simian,
Completely agree. We need to make the numbers match our expectations, since our expectations are in fact the reality that must be imposed upon the external world, and as long as we think positive, it will tranform this polished turd of an economy into chocolate mousse.
--bh
blackhat Fri Apr 3 08:34:04 2009 CDT #
Anonymous says:
Mad Mullah:
Rate of rise...nearly asymptotic. These graphs are amazing.
Not for nothing Counterpointer calls it the Manic Depression. People are looking for a bottom but they haven't even been hit by the first wave of secondary effects yet.
Anonymous Fri Apr 3 08:36:46 2009 CDT #
Mean Flurry Kitten says:
Don't you guys know? There are no homos in Iran and nobody is unemployed in the USofA. They are just called "Proud Member of American Workforce Reserve Pool" (PMAWRP).
Mean Flurry Kitten Fri Apr 3 08:38:09 2009 CDT #
Topher says:
This is going to get much worse. The recent cheerleading will make the next leg down even worse psychologically for the masses.
Topher Fri Apr 3 08:38:40 2009 CDT #
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Yancey Ward Fri Apr 3 08:40:25 2009 CDT #
Anonymous says:
What is up with the data from 1993 to 1994? Was there a revision in methodology? How could the number have dropped so quickly?
Anonymous Fri Apr 3 08:40:46 2009 CDT #
Cinco-X says:
Pent up demand. The media was broadcasting that the economy was in the crapper right through the '92 election, even though the recession had ended almost a year before. After Clinton's inaurguration, they changed their tune, and the hiring and conversion back to full time took off. Those folks should have been working full time already, but everyone was scared to hire due to fearmongering in the media. Also, the dot.com thing was getting ready to take off.
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Cinco-X Fri Apr 3 08:56:17 2009 CDT #
Turbo says:
Fannie paying bonuses is incomprehensible. They are fully government enterprises for the foreseeable future, and their employees should be paid on the same scale as the Fed or Treasury. Whoever made that decision seriously deserves to have their head on a pike for public display.
Turbo Fri Apr 3 08:42:34 2009 CDT #
Mook says:
Oh, you incorrigble whiners. Didn't you check out the B-1 table from the BLS?
The count of government workers held steady again last month, at 22,538,000. In fact, the government worker population is actually higher now than it was in December 2007, when this so-called "recession" started.
All we have to do is give everyone a government job, and our unemployment rate will never go up. Bada-bing! Problem solved.
Meanwhile, private-sector unemployment has gone from 5.4% in 12/07 to 10.0% in this past month.* But hey, someone's gotta feel the pain, right?
(* - This is the only "unemployment" figure I truly trust, and I have to calculate it myself.) But really,
Mook Fri Apr 3 08:43:33 2009 CDT #
Topher says:
Secretary of labor is talking about the extra $25 unemployed people will be getting in their pockets. She fails to mention that it will be eaten up in fuel and energy costs. Gasoline has gone up 40% in the last few months where I live.
Topher Fri Apr 3 08:44:15 2009 CDT #
Anonymous says:
Aon:
What is up with the data from 1993 to 1994? Was there a revision in methodology? How could the number have dropped so quickly?
Quoted for emphasis.
Anonymous Fri Apr 3 08:45:20 2009 CDT #
Black Star Ranch says:
"..then not only is AIG culpable, so is their counterparty, which means that Mr. Holder"....has to prosecute the very same people that control his boss.
Yes, and THAT'S precisely why it won't happen. The bankers have bought and paid for the ruling class now on the hill.
Black Star Ranch Fri Apr 3 08:46:12 2009 CDT #
Lobbyi$t Ben Dover says:
"Fannie paying bonuses is incomprehensible. They are fully government enterprises for the foreseeable future, and their employees should be paid on the same scale as the Fed or Treasury. Whoever made that decision seriously deserves to have their head on a pike for public display."
UNL raises Bo Pelini Head football coach 9-4 record got a insane raise to 1.851 MM. Public money in a state where wages are $35K. Where is OB's Outrage when students are faced with rising tution coast? Double standard again?
Lobbyi$t Ben Dover Fri Apr 3 08:51:28 2009 CDT #
praetorian says:
A good football coach pays for himself directly with increased revenues at games and increased alumni donations, and he's fired mercilessly if he has a bad season.
Fannie and Freddie execs? Not so much.
Cheers,
prat
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praetorian Fri Apr 3 10:36:54 2009 CDT #
Ted Kavadas says:
This chart is amazing. "And the rapid increase is stunning..." may be a understatement. One has to wonder if/when these people become totally unemployed as their current status is probably due to tenuous economic conditions.
Ted Kavadas Fri Apr 3 08:58:00 2009 CDT #
Anonymous says:
Is white collar crime code for putting more white people in jail.
I can't see more whites in jail as a bad thing. The statistics seem to indicate they are a profoundly underserved population by the prison lobby.
Probably because working in the prison-industrial complex is a white entitlement. Don't believe me, just try to cut the budget for negro control and see what happens when you get near the third rail.
Anyway, we should end segregating in what is obviously America's key institution, judging by dollars squandered and hot air expelled. We need a lot more whites in jail and permanently consigned to the felon class of limited-rights iondividuals, so that they can share the suffering everyone else got at their hands.
The rest were just worker bees trying to keep their jobs.
I don't care if you were a good German, get in the cage with the hungry tortured animals you made out of your fellow citizens. Mayube you could hav considered doing the right thing some time before you reached the foot of the gallows. Everyone is repentant here, and it availeth them not.
Anonymous Fri Apr 3 09:01:40 2009 CDT #
Blackhalo says:
"The bankers have bought and paid for the ruling class now on the hill."
With OUR money, since they have run out of their own. Recipients of Federal funds and AIG counter-parties, should be banned from contributing to campaigns.
Blackhalo Fri Apr 3 09:01:50 2009 CDT #
kp says:
could you adjust this to working age population?
kp Fri Apr 3 09:04:04 2009 CDT #
Money Man says:
CRAP...Now I can't even get a job at HD or Wal Mart part time! Guess it's back to the Gov't tit.
Money Man Fri Apr 3 09:39:57 2009 CDT #
Mannwich says:
I'm sure those part-time jobs pay enough for a down payment on a house. No problem, right?
Mannwich Fri Apr 3 10:14:27 2009 CDT #
John Stark says:
Does this include people who would rather NOT be working (retirees, parents with kids) who have had to return to the workforce part-time to make ends meet?
John Stark Fri Apr 3 12:47:04 2009 CDT #
malatesta says:
Does this include people who would rather NOT be working (retirees, parents with kids) who have had to return to the workforce part-time to make ends meet?
i'm pretty sure that the number of people who would rather not be working, but have to for economic reasons, is a fairly steady 98% of the people working.
malatesta Fri Apr 3 14:33:01 2009 CDT #
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